Separate ssd for nextcloud app?

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i would like to just plug another drive into my node to store the no n bitcoin stuff. is this possible?

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Hopefully the umbrel team can help. I am also very interested.

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That would have been awesome, but unfortunately the Raspberry Pi is too humble to power two drives simultaneously and the result is a very unreliable experience.

However, as we move Bitcoin Core to the app store in the future, you could then set up a dedicated Umbrel for Bitcoin Core and another for Nextcloud without worrying about Bitcoin Core taking ~400GB or so of the disk space.

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I can speak from experience, if we would like to have more than 1 SSD/HDD connected, it would have to be a powered USB 3.0 hub, otherwise it would just blink as if it wasn’t getting enough power. The official RPi power supply is not adequate for this, but the Canakit power supply (which I have) can handle it, but anything more than 2 SSDs/HDDs, it would struggle to run the whole thing.

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Would an 18w phone fast charger work?

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In theory, yes… but not recommended. Anything else than the official RPi power supply might give you problems.

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Weird, I would’ve thought as long as there was enough current then it would be fine.
What type of problems? Intermittent performance or overload and kaboom?

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It would be not enough power, since the RPi can use all the maximum of a phone charger (usually they only provide 2.1A (USB specs) to 2.5A if you’re lucky) It might be enough to run only the RPi, and if you connected anything in the USB ports, it’ll either lose power or perform sluggishly/intermittently. The only time it’ll “overload and go kaboom” is if the USB-C on the board receives more than 5.2V DC (same can be said for the GPIO) – I’ve seen a fried RPi because someone accidentally connected a 15V DC plug intended for a Forcepoint firewall… it was a bad day for that guy.

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Bugger. I have a 2Tb external WD drive I’m not really using and it’s got one of those weird USB connectors on the case side that has the USB and power side by side in the same connector, I don’t know the name of that type of connector, but they’re quite common for external drives.
Can you get USB hubs that can provide power via a wall socket while also feeding the data through?

I’ll be setting up my Umbrel node with a Deskpi and an M.2 drive, so if I can know in advance what I can do to increase storage ahead of time, then it would help me in choosing the size of the M.2 drive to get (I was aiming for 1Tb)

Hey thanks for your input btw.

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Is it the USB Micro B connector: https://media.digikey.com/photos/FTDI%20(Future%20Tech%20Devices)/USB-3.0-A-MICRO-B-CABLE.jpg ?

It will work, I’m assuming it is a 2.5" drive, as long the other end is an USB with the blue plastic like the example picture above, then it’ll work fine or the enclosure has its own power supply (a requirement in 3.5" or 5.25" enclosures).

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Yes thats it exactly

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https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/wd-2tb-my-passport-portable-hard-drive-black-wdmp2tbbk

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Perhaps I might have to look into a proper NAS system.
I’m really interested in the photoPrism for photo backups.

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Powered usb 3 hubs are fairly cheap ($10-$15) and supply the electricity for the second, third or fourth drive(s). Given the docker containers, has anyone gotten nextcloud to work with a second drive (the non-bitcoin data drive)?

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This would be great, Nextcloud is working awesome for phone backups and PhotoPrism awesome for photo backups so next step will be upgrading to a bigger ssd (or adding a second)

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Probably the best option for now

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One could use a powered SSD enclosure, a powered USB hub, or else even something like this?

Ability to properly set up more storage would be a game changer. A lot of people these days are getting off of big tech, and I for one am trying hard to do this without falling all the way down the NAS rabbit hole, which looks deep, expensive, and power-hungry, not to mention reliant on un-sovereign software and difficult to get friends and family set up with.

While I’m dreaming, some functionality I’d love to have:

  • ability to access umbrel file storage as a shared folder, directly in your filesystem

  • ability to designate one umbrel to be an automatic, remote backup of another

  • custom hardware! Preferably modular, such that you can add more drives.