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Yeah, I feared that this would be the next step. However, I get your first two bullet points about cleaning the SSD, umbelos, however, is installed in my SD-Card. Wouldn’t it hence be the first step to backup /home/umbrel/umbrel/app-data (I’m not sure how I’ll do that right now),format the SSD and then copy the backup to the clean disk?

Well, it’s best to plan your actions to avoid making a mistake. By the way, I’ve searched the entire post, and you never mentioned what device you’re using. RPI 4 or RPI 5?

First of all, a clarification regarding the SD card. Umbrelos uses the SD card for the OS and expands it to the disk with the apps, mainly. Your problem isn’t with the SD card, but with your disk. This doesn’t seem to be your case, but just so you’re clear. Problem X could be affecting the installation on the SD card and also the extended installation on the disk. Again, this isn’t your case, but just so you’re clear.

Planning:

  1. I would backup the app-data folder ( /home/umbrella/umbrella/app-data ), which is where all your apps are installed and stored.

Since you’ve connected the disk to a computer, the easiest thing to do would be to find that folder (app-data) and copy/paste it to your computer or another external disk through the computer. Just make sure you have enough space (1 TB) because the blockchain is there. This is the simplest. Otherwise, you’ll have to deal with commands from the rpi.

Aside from that, you use lighting. I assume you have backed up the seed, keys, config, etc. I mean, I assume you have funds on your node, right?

  1. I would format the disk again in etx4, GPT Partition Table.

You already have the disk connected to the computer. gparted will do it for you.

  1. I would reinstall umbrella with the most recent version.

There’s not much to say here. You already know that.

  1. I would install apps one by one. For example, bitcoin core. I install, stop, transfer blockchain from the existing copy, and let it index until it’s syncing correctly. Once this is confirmed, I go to the next app and do the same.

Well, that’s it. One by one.

And if you get stuck on any part of the process and/or aren’t sure, just ask and we’ll help you.

Thanks, I have a question:
Reinstalling umbrel would mean to erase the SD, too, and start from there, right? Why not format the SSD, copy the dada folder (or all folders That have been on there before) over and slot it in? wouldn’t it create the other missing folders on boot?
I’m on RPi4, by the way.

Reinstalling umbrel would mean to erase the SD, too, and start from there, right?

Correct. That’s the idea.

Why not format the SSD, copy the dada folder (or all folders That have been on there before) over and slot it in? wouldn’t it create the other missing folders on boot?

Copying the “Data” folder before installing Umbrelos may cause the Umbrelos installer to detect a previous installation and not reinstall anything, leaving it as is on the SSD.

It’s a potential risk, but at this point, you could try it and see how it works. You might be successful because, after the tests we ran, we found that you didn’t have any apparent problems with your Umbrelos installation, only with the strange behavior of your disk.

I’ve never tried it at this level because I’ve only had to do it with a specific app. I’ve never had your problem and haven’t tried it, but you have nothing to lose by trying it yourself. In theory, it should work.

The worst that can happen is that it doesn’t work, and you can always go back because you have a backup of everything important.

Yes, I have everything backed up. Thanks for your opinion on this. Then I’ll search for a way to “park” the 800 GB and format the disk next.

Hey @jofraprez maybe you’re still following this threat?
I tried copying the umbrel folder (just above 800 GB) to a second drive two times now and both times, the second drive (1 TB) is shown with roughly the correct amount of storage occupied, while the folder I copied is shown as containing only 50 GB.
This is too wild and I’ll will format the 2 TB SSD and the SD next and start with a fresh install of umbrel. Hopefully, the Bitcoin and Lightning channel backups will work smoothly. Wish me luck and thank you once again for your support!

Yes, I hadn’t forgotten about you and assumed that, since I hadn’t updated your status, you might have been able to resolve the issue.
Anyway, I hope you backed up the important stuff and that starting from scratch is the best option. I would have done it before running so many tests.

If it helps, I encountered a similar problem with one of my SSDs.

In the end, it’s a hardware issue, possibly incompatibility and/or device failure. I haven’t spent much time doing such exhaustive tests. In my case, the SSD in question doesn’t work well with Bitcoin Core, but it does work as a storage for various files. So I removed it from Bitcoin Core and have it under observation, storing movies.
Well, I won’t bore you with any more of my stories. Good luck with the new installation. :slight_smile:

Oh my, what has happened? I just found the time to reinstall and went to the Umbrel HP, which now seems completely geared to selling the server hardware. just a slight mention of Pi5, no link to OS images…I am a little shocked. Found the Pi5 image on github but had to google for Pi4 images. Latest is V 0.5.4, my Pi4 ran V 1.3 through updates, though. Times have changed here, I guess.
Is there a Pi4 image of the current version or do I install 0.5.4 and update afterwards?

Thanks for any help!

Here you have them all:

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Thank you, I could not find this for the life of me!