Hey friend @sbubtc,
in regards to backups some info/background knowledge if interested: Recovering a lightning wallet without a backup file - #35 by usernameisJim
and the automated process specifically if you’re referencing those manual steps and are curious, this solves for what I reference here as abstracting this process away so you don’t have to deal with it: Re installing Lightning Node from seed phrase - #9 by usernameisJim
If you’re recovering, or whatever needed, if it’s needing some more back and forth I might suggest hoping over to Umbrel · Support and joining the discord to describe what your current scenario is so the community can get you caught up to speed with anything and going 