Apps dissapearing after reboot

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1

Hello

My new installed apps is dissappearing after I installed them (only bitcoin and lighting is presistent) and do a reboot. They work while active but dissappears after reboot.

Please see my startup log file I uploaded.

Any advise?

umbrel-1775485916289.log (1.1 MB)

2

you can try to ssh into your umbrel:

ssh umbrel@umbrel.local
  1. Check for user.json file
ls /home/umbrel/umbrel/db
  1. Check whether your umbrel.yaml lists more than 2 apps
grep -B 3 "apps" /home/umbrel/umbrel/umbrel.yaml

in case user.json is present you can back it up/copy its content and try to remove it, then re-install the apps and reboot to check if they persist.

3

Hello Sus

Thank for answering.

I had the user.json (in /home/umbrel/umbrel/db) and it only listed bitcoin + lighting (not the missing apps). I removed it and re-installed and still only bitcoin and lighting.

The apps section from my umbrel.yaml is only bitcoin and lighting

apps:

-bitcoin

-lightning

Any advise?

4

You can try to install the other apps again then the apps section in umbrel.yaml should also show these again, if not thats another problem. If yes then I am pretty sure that they will also persist now after deleting the old user.json (which overrode it I think).

5

Thanks @sus for speedy replies, appreciate you!

I fixed it (will report if it reverts back or breaks, especially after updates)

I removed all my funds out of my account (in case I break my umbrel doing this).

I then manually edited and added the application names in the apps section in /home/umbrel/umbrel/umbrel.yaml to include my missing apps

before (notice how my recentlyOpenedApps have the apps but the apps section does not) :

apps:
 - bitcoin
 - lightning
torEnabled: false
widgets:
umbrel:memory
umbrel:system-stats
umbrel:storage
version: 1.5.0
recentlyOpenedApps:
 - thunderhub
 - lightning
 - mempool
 - bitcoin
 - openclaw
 - electrs

after (manually inserted):

apps:
  - bitcoin
  - lightning
  - openclaw
  - thunderhub
  - mempool
  - electrs
torEnabled: false
widgets:
umbrel:memory
umbrel:system-stats
umbrel:storage
version: 1.5.0
recentlyOpenedApps:
 - thunderhub
 - lightning
 - mempool
 - bitcoin
 - openclaw
 - electrs

Restarted and it worked, tried a few restarts now and all seems persistent.

I am by no means a pro here , so for any one else trying to fix and solve it this way do it at your own risk.

6

I had the same problem with BTCPay server app.

When I checked the installed app list in user.json BTCPay server was missing, while it is present in umbrel.yaml.

Instead of removing user.json and reinstalling apps as @sus suggested. I have taken user.json backup.

cd /home/umbrel/umbrel/db

cp user.json user.json.backup

and added the missing app and app source directly into user.json

Original json file:

“installedApps”: [
“bitcoin”,
“btctracker”,
“electrs”,
“lightning”,
“lightning-terminal”,
“lnbits”,
“lnplus”,
“syncthing”,
“tailscale”,
“thunderhub”,
“watch-your-lan”
],
“repos”: [
“https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps.git”
],
“wallpaper”: “7.jpg”,
“remoteTorAccess”: true,
“unusedSeed”: true,
“appOrigin”: {
“bitcoin”: “https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps.git”,
“lightning”: “https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps.git”,
“electrs”: “https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps.git”,
“lnplus”: “https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps.git”,
“thunderhub”: “https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps.git”,
“syncthing”: “https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps.git”,
“tailscale”: “https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps.git”,
“lightning-terminal”: “https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps.git”,
“watch-your-lan”: “https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps.git”,
“lnbits”: “https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps.git”,
“btctracker”: “https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps.git”

New json file :

“installedApps”: [
“bitcoin”,
“btctracker”,
“btcpay-server”,
“electrs”,
“lightning”,
“lightning-terminal”,
“lnbits”,
“lnplus”,
“syncthing”,
“tailscale”,
“thunderhub”,
“watch-your-lan”
],
“repos”: [
“https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps.git”
],
“wallpaper”: “7.jpg”,
“remoteTorAccess”: true,
“unusedSeed”: true,
“appOrigin”: {
“bitcoin”: “https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps.git”,
“lightning”: “https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps.git”,
“electrs”: “https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps.git”,
“lnplus”: “https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps.git”,
“thunderhub”: “https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps.git”,
“syncthing”: “https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps.git”,
“tailscale”: “https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps.git”,
“lightning-terminal”: “https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps.git”,
“watch-your-lan”: “https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps.git”,
“lnbits”: “https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps.git”,
“btcpay-server”: “https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps.git”,
“btctracker”: “https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel-apps.git”

I have done it all, while the node and all the apps were running.

After the restart BTCPay server finally doesn’t need to be reinstalled as before.

Aparently both apps lists ( user.json and umbrel.yaml) need to be aligned. Adding those which are missing to both files is a possible solution.