# Unable to send lightning payment: insufficient\_balance **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 11, 2021, 11:48pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/unable-to-send-lightning-payment-insufficient-balance/3337 "2021-09-11T23:48:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Maria](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/34f0e0/32.png) [@Maria](https://community.umbrel.com/u/Maria)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 11:48pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/unable-to-send-lightning-payment-insufficient-balance/3337/1 "2021-09-11T23:48:34Z")
Hey, I’m trying to send a lightning payment to Bluewallet through my umbrel lightning node but I just get the error message: Unable to send lightning payment: insufficient\_balance. I have sufficient balance. I have opened a channel already. Bitcoin core is fully synced. Anyone that can help? Thanks, ---
**Author:** ![DarthCoin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/darthcoin/32/1628_2.png) [@DarthCoin](https://community.umbrel.com/u/DarthCoin)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 8:26am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/unable-to-send-lightning-payment-insufficient-balance/3337/2 "2021-09-20T08:26:03Z")
Did you read this guide? > [@Umbrel + BlueWallet + LNDHub](http://community.umbrel.com/t/guide-umbrel-bluewallet-lndhub/497): > > Description This is a major step forward for all node operators. Why? Because is one more step for a node in becoming a “Bitcoin Sovereign Bank”, being a HUB for your family, friends and all those who do not/can’t have a node for themselves. Practically you can “rent” them space and liquidity from your node. More details about [LNDhub here](https://bluewallet.io/lndhub/) and also here is [the announcement from Bluewallet team](https://bluewallet.io/BlueWallet-brings-zero-configuration-Lightning-payments-to-iOS-and-Android-30137a69f071/). There’s a very important aspect in Bitcoin world and few understand it: custodial wallets (your fun… ---
**Author:** ![Maria](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/34f0e0/32.png) [@Maria](https://community.umbrel.com/u/Maria)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2021, 6:33pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/unable-to-send-lightning-payment-insufficient-balance/3337/3 "2021-09-21T18:33:47Z")
It’s solved, but thanks anyway 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![BitcoinStoa.com](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9f8e36/32.png) [@BitcoinStoa.com](https://community.umbrel.com/u/BitcoinStoa.com)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2021, 12:57am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/unable-to-send-lightning-payment-insufficient-balance/3337/4 "2021-10-09T00:57:20Z")
Hi Maria. I’m having the same issue. How did you resolve it? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Maria](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/34f0e0/32.png) [@Maria](https://community.umbrel.com/u/Maria)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2021, 2:30pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/unable-to-send-lightning-payment-insufficient-balance/3337/5 "2021-10-09T14:30:11Z")
You need to balance your lightning channel. Not all the sats can be on the other side. For example, I had only 1000 and the one who opened a channel to me had a lot more. So he sent me 10 000 sats, and then I was able to send lightning payments. Hope it helps 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![BitcoinStoa.com](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9f8e36/32.png) [@BitcoinStoa.com](https://community.umbrel.com/u/BitcoinStoa.com)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2021, 3:08pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/unable-to-send-lightning-payment-insufficient-balance/3337/6 "2021-10-09T15:08:12Z")
Thanks for your help Maria. I’m very new to this but enjoying the learning process immensely. I was able to send a payment from my muun wallet to my lightning node just fine. The trouble is when I try to send a payment from the node back to muun wallet. On Umbrel it says “max send 30,500 sats” so it seems like the channel is funded but I still get the “insufficient\_balance” error. Perhaps I can only send funds from my node to another lightning node? Was hoping to use my node to send friends small transactions to their lightning wallets put perhaps they also need to be running nodes for this to work? Appreciate your help. ---
**Author:** ![Maria](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/34f0e0/32.png) [@Maria](https://community.umbrel.com/u/Maria)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 12:13pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/unable-to-send-lightning-payment-insufficient-balance/3337/7 "2021-10-14T12:13:16Z")
Hi! You should be able to send transactions to an app wallet. I have sent sats from my lightning node to BlueWallet, and they don’t have to run a node. I think it also depends on what amount there is on “max receive”, so it is balanced. I am also quite new to this so maybe someone else on here can answer this properly? ---
**Author:** ![BitcoinStoa.com](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9f8e36/32.png) [@BitcoinStoa.com](https://community.umbrel.com/u/BitcoinStoa.com)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 3:35pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/unable-to-send-lightning-payment-insufficient-balance/3337/8 "2021-10-18T15:35:44Z")
Thanks for all your help Maria. With some experimenting I’ve been able to get things working now.