# Two umbrels on the same network

**URL:** <https://community.umbrel.com/t/two-umbrels-on-the-same-network/17470>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 29, 2024, 11:41am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/two-umbrels-on-the-same-network/17470 "2024-05-29T11:41:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![xrulescu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/xrulescu/32/3394_2.png) [@xrulescu](https://community.umbrel.com/u/xrulescu)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2024, 11:41am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/two-umbrels-on-the-same-network/17470/1 "2024-05-29T11:41:26Z")

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Hello,

I’m trying to run two Umbrel raspberries 4 on the same networks and… I’m unable. As soon as the 2nd one boots up the 1st one crashes.

Any ideas?

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**Author:** ![xrulescu](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/xrulescu/32/3394_2.png) [@xrulescu](https://community.umbrel.com/u/xrulescu)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 6:39pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/two-umbrels-on-the-same-network/17470/2 "2024-06-05T18:39:21Z")

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bump?!?

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**Author:** ![madara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/53a042/32.png) [@madara](https://community.umbrel.com/u/madara)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2024, 7:03pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/two-umbrels-on-the-same-network/17470/3 "2024-06-05T19:03:00Z")

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Can I ask why you are doing that?

Also I’d be happy to help troubleshoot, but more information is needed.  
When the 1st one crashes, how does it crash? Can you post any log files that might help?

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**Author:** ![cabeoc](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/cabeoc/32/3047_2.png) [@cabeoc](https://community.umbrel.com/u/cabeoc)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2024, 3:09am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/two-umbrels-on-the-same-network/17470/4 "2024-06-25T03:09:28Z")

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Good question. The default hostname is always “umbrel,” right? That could be conflicting if trying to reach them both by umbrel.local, but maybe could confirm they’re both being leased IP addresses and reach them that way. Does the 1st crash, or just no longer show on the network?