# Turn off Bitcoin node & sync **URL:** \ **Category:** Bitcoin and Lightning\ **Created:** [September 26, 2021, 3:44pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/turn-off-bitcoin-node-sync/3666 "2021-09-26T15:44:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![wolfyy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9de053/32.png) [@wolfyy](https://community.umbrel.com/u/wolfyy)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 3:44pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/turn-off-bitcoin-node-sync/3666/1 "2021-09-26T15:44:34Z")
Hey is there a way to do this within Umbrel. I don’t see an option to stop the node running. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![DarthCoin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/darthcoin/32/1628_2.png) [@DarthCoin](https://community.umbrel.com/u/DarthCoin)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2021, 3:55pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/turn-off-bitcoin-node-sync/3666/2 "2021-09-26T15:55:23Z")
Then what is the point running a node without sync? Is like a Ferrari without a Ferrari engine… doesn’t make any sense. ---
**Author:** ![Diiikco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Diiikco](https://community.umbrel.com/u/Diiikco)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2021, 4:35pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/turn-off-bitcoin-node-sync/3666/3 "2021-09-27T16:35:46Z")
If you mean shutdown the Umbrel. “Settings” in the bottom left, and then there’s a “shutdown” option. ---
**Author:** ![thespielplatz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/thespielplatz/32/2171_2.png) [@thespielplatz](https://community.umbrel.com/u/thespielplatz)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 1:14pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/turn-off-bitcoin-node-sync/3666/4 "2022-02-11T13:14:29Z")
I have the same question. I already have 2 nodes running and would like to save the space on the umbrel HDD. Just to get an idea? - Shutdown bincoind (systemd?) - are there some auto restart scripts in umbrel? - edit lnd.conf (point neutrino mode to my servers) thx for any advice ---
**Author:** ![LoboGuara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/54ee81/32.png) [@LoboGuara](https://community.umbrel.com/u/LoboGuara)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 4:58pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/turn-off-bitcoin-node-sync/3666/5 "2022-02-11T16:58:11Z")
A question I have: does Umbrel’s lightning (LND) fully works while neutrino way running? If yes, seems you can stop bcd syncronization if you have a trusted neutrino server… and use a tiny SSD… ---
**Author:** ![DarthCoin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/darthcoin/32/1628_2.png) [@DarthCoin](https://community.umbrel.com/u/DarthCoin)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 9:18pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/turn-off-bitcoin-node-sync/3666/6 "2022-02-11T21:18:02Z")
Umbrel is not using Neutrino sync. Umbrel is a full node, so be patient to sync 100% in normal way and then start using it- ---
**Author:** ![thespielplatz](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/thespielplatz/32/2171_2.png) [@thespielplatz](https://community.umbrel.com/u/thespielplatz)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2022, 10:34pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/turn-off-bitcoin-node-sync/3666/8 "2022-02-11T22:34:05Z")
As far I understand Umbrel, as long as the bitcoin node syncs LND is using neutrino. Neutrino is switched on from the beginning (that what I saw in the `~/umbrel/lnd/lnd.conf`). I like the way how Umbrel switches back to the bitcoin node with the neutrino switcher and reconfigures the lnd.conf I have already two bitcoin nodes running and connected the Umbrel LND to them. (LND with Neutrino [Docs@LND](https://docs.lightning.engineering/lightning-network-tools/lnd/enable-neutrino-mode-in-bitcoin-core) I would like use my own nodes that I already have and the idea is to remove the bitcoin&neutrino switcher from the docker compose file. Is this idea worth my while? I am probably not a user of your target group … so if you not support this, I am ok too. Just let me know. ---
**Author:** ![magusd](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/magusd/32/2528_2.png) [@magusd](https://community.umbrel.com/u/magusd)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/turn-off-bitcoin-node-sync/3666/9 "2022-04-10T18:11:42Z")
SSH into your server `ssh umbrel@umbrel.local` #password is either moneyprintergobrrr or the one you use to access the dashboard Run this to kill the running bitcoin process `docker stop $(docker ps -a | grep bitcoi | awk '{print $1}')` To reclaim the disk space `rm -rf ~/umbrel/bitcoin/blocks/*.dat` If someone asks you why you want a Ferrari without the engine instead of answering your question, tell them you like the leather seats and you think it’s a silly idea to use a V8 to go grocery shopping ---
**Author:** ![DarthCoin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/darthcoin/32/1628_2.png) [@DarthCoin](https://community.umbrel.com/u/DarthCoin)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2022, 1:13pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/turn-off-bitcoin-node-sync/3666/10 "2022-04-11T13:13:44Z")
Please stop with this bullshit removal of bitcoin from umbrel node. You are just a shitcoiner. ---
**Author:** ![wolfyy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9de053/32.png) [@wolfyy](https://community.umbrel.com/u/wolfyy)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2022, 4:24pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/turn-off-bitcoin-node-sync/3666/11 "2022-04-11T16:24:13Z")
The reason was that I was only using the lightning network and running that. I don’t think an unreasonable request. ---
**Author:** ![DarthCoin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/darthcoin/32/1628_2.png) [@DarthCoin](https://community.umbrel.com/u/DarthCoin)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2022, 4:28pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/turn-off-bitcoin-node-sync/3666/12 "2022-04-11T16:28:37Z")
So on top of that you don’t even know how LN works… LN without bitcoin node DO NOT WORK. If you want to use just a LN wallet, there are other ways, and necessarily running a fill node. [Here I wrote a guide about all LN wallets that exist now](https://darthcoin.substack.com/p/lightning-wallets-comparison) - choose wisely. ---
**Author:** ![vut\_cheapmortgage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e99b99/32.png) [@vut\_cheapmortgage](https://community.umbrel.com/u/vut_cheapmortgage)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2022, 8:13am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/turn-off-bitcoin-node-sync/3666/13 "2022-10-01T08:13:49Z")
> [@magusd](#): > > docker ps -a | grep bitcoi | awk ‘{print $1}’ you’re a boss @magusd . I just needed this so i can transfer umbrel bitcoin node to an external hard drive because the onboard is out of memory. I’m using [this guide](https://medium.com/coinmonks/migrating-umbrel-bitcoin-blocks-to-external-storage-a886821d2b3e) for it.