# Starting New Containers

**URL:** <https://community.umbrel.com/t/starting-new-containers/6303>\
**Category:** Support and Troubleshooting\
**Created:** [February 13, 2022, 9:16pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/starting-new-containers/6303 "2022-02-13T21:16:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Frahnk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frahnk](https://community.umbrel.com/u/Frahnk)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 9:16pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/starting-new-containers/6303/1 "2022-02-13T21:16:43Z")

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Please help after a day and half trying to load im now stuck on Starting new containers! Today spent the day in ssh and troubleshooting and no luck [https://gyazo.com/560ecfc2a79a064d7fe037878e329db7…](https://gyazo.com/560ecfc2a79a064d7fe037878e329db7%E2%80%A6) If anyone with help please lmk this happened after new update!

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**Author:** ![DarthCoin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/darthcoin/32/1628_2.png) [@DarthCoin](https://community.umbrel.com/u/DarthCoin)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 9:34pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/starting-new-containers/6303/2 "2022-02-13T21:34:31Z")

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If you are on RaspPi, shut it down graceful and take out the mSD card and reflash it with latest Umbrel version.  
Sometimes those little cards get dizzy and need a fresh format.  
No worry all user data is on SSD, only the OS is on mSD.

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**Author:** ![Frahnk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frahnk](https://community.umbrel.com/u/Frahnk)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 11:22pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/starting-new-containers/6303/3 "2022-02-14T23:22:32Z")

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still any fix im still stuck ☹

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**Author:** ![DarthCoin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/darthcoin/32/1628_2.png) [@DarthCoin](https://community.umbrel.com/u/DarthCoin)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 6:55pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/starting-new-containers/6303/4 "2022-02-15T18:55:31Z")

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Look in the [troubleshooting manual](http://community.umbrel.com/t/umbrel-troubleshooting-guide/3632) it is explained there what to do when containers fail to start

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**Author:** ![Frahnk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frahnk](https://community.umbrel.com/u/Frahnk)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2022, 10:28pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/starting-new-containers/6303/5 "2022-02-16T22:28:26Z")

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what category would it fall under?? And i cant get into my SSH

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**Author:** ![n080dy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/n080dy/32/2207_2.png) [@n080dy](https://community.umbrel.com/u/n080dy)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2022, 8:55am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/starting-new-containers/6303/6 "2022-02-17T08:55:21Z")

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@Frahnk read [above](http://community.umbrel.com/t/starting-new-containers/6303/2) to restore access to ssh before continuing the process below

> [@Umbrel Troubleshooting Guide](https://community.umbrel.com/t/umbrel-troubleshooting-guide/3632/1):
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> **▶ Several docker services could not start - Failed to start containers**
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> If you see in your node debug logs, that error message about docker “failed to start containers”, SSH into your node and run this command:
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> `cd umbrel`  
> `sudo systemctl stop docker.service && sudo systemctl stop docker.socket && sudo rm -rf /var/lib/docker/* && sudo umount /var/lib/docker || true && sudo rm -rf /mnt/data/docker/* && sudo reboot`

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**Author:** ![Frahnk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frahnk](https://community.umbrel.com/u/Frahnk)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2022, 9:12pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/starting-new-containers/6303/7 "2022-02-17T21:12:00Z")

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it now says my remote host id has changed

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**Author:** ![n080dy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/n080dy/32/2207_2.png) [@n080dy](https://community.umbrel.com/u/n080dy)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2022, 11:15pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/starting-new-containers/6303/8 "2022-02-17T23:15:11Z")

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Ok, cool! something changed 🙂 Now you should be able to delete the file on C:\Users\tring/.ssh/known\_hosts to get rid of the `@ WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @` message and:

- shut down your modem, router and your Umbrel.
- Then boot them all back up one by one
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  - wait for full lights confirmation before proceeding to

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  - booting up the next device

Hope it helps!

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**Author:** ![Frahnk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frahnk](https://community.umbrel.com/u/Frahnk)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 7:11pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/starting-new-containers/6303/9 "2022-02-19T19:11:05Z")

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no no work what did you mean by delete the file??

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**Author:** ![DarthCoin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/darthcoin/32/1628_2.png) [@DarthCoin](https://community.umbrel.com/u/DarthCoin)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2022, 7:13pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/starting-new-containers/6303/10 "2022-02-19T19:13:40Z")

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> [@n080dy](#):
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> C:\Users\tring/.ssh/known\_hosts

that file, on your local PC from where you access SSH. It says clearly.

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**Author:** ![Frahnk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frahnk](https://community.umbrel.com/u/Frahnk)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 6:26pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/starting-new-containers/6303/11 "2022-02-20T18:26:23Z")

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how doews one delete that tho

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**Author:** ![DarthCoin](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/darthcoin/32/1628_2.png) [@DarthCoin](https://community.umbrel.com/u/DarthCoin)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 7:04pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/starting-new-containers/6303/12 "2022-02-20T19:04:50Z")

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If you don’t know how to delete a file in your own computer, then… I don’t know if you will be capable to run and maintain a node. Seriously.  
Just leave it.

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**Author:** ![Frahnk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frahnk](https://community.umbrel.com/u/Frahnk)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 8:51pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/starting-new-containers/6303/13 "2022-02-20T20:51:50Z")

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no i know to but i cant fin that file or anything i am on a ras pi

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**Author:** ![Frahnk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frahnk](https://community.umbrel.com/u/Frahnk)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 8:28pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/starting-new-containers/6303/14 "2022-02-26T20:28:46Z")

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Ok finally did my reserch and looked at a dummies guide i found it and delete it thanks whats next boss

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**Author:** ![n080dy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/n080dy/32/2207_2.png) [@n080dy](https://community.umbrel.com/u/n080dy)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2022, 10:46pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/starting-new-containers/6303/16 "2022-02-26T22:46:45Z")

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Maybe share the process and the links that have been useful for you? so other people will benefit from it 🙂

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**Author:** ![Frahnk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frahnk](https://community.umbrel.com/u/Frahnk)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2022, 9:11pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/starting-new-containers/6303/17 "2022-03-03T21:11:10Z")

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Only thing is ive been stuck on this page now for days i thought i was all set

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**Author:** ![Space-Matrix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Space-Matrix](https://community.umbrel.com/u/Space-Matrix)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2022, 12:24pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/starting-new-containers/6303/18 "2022-10-04T12:24:29Z")

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([Starting new containers hängs](http://community.umbrel.com/t/starting-new-containers-hangs/9596))

 ![Screenshot from 2022-09-17 10-15-13](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/getumbrel/original/2X/1/186e9063e6a184bc4128bd03e448a21d8fa42895.jpeg)

Hello community  
Since a week after the update I only see this picture.  
But my node is running and everything is normal with Ride The Lightning or Thunderhub in the lightning network. According to the error messages, there is probably a problem with the mempool connection?  
I don’t know if this is important but before the update I tried to set up the Blue Wallet app but that didn’t work  
When I start the node I have the errors:  
WARNING: The APP\_MEMPOOL\_PORT variable is not set. Defaulting to a blank string.  
WARNING: The APP\_MEMPOOL\_HIDDEN\_SERVICE variable is not set. Defaulting to a blank string.

Does anyone know the problem ?!

Regards from Switzerland  
Roland

FULL STARTING PROCESS:

roland@roland-Macmini:~/umbrel$ sudo ./scripts/start  
[sudo] password for roland:  
Skipping status update when not on Umbrel OS

# ======================================

============= STARTING ===============  
============== UMBREL ================

Setting environment variables…

Starting karen…

Starting status monitors…  
Starting memory monitor…

Starting backup monitor…

Starting decoy backup trigger…

Starting Docker services…

auth is up-to-date  
dashboard is up-to-date  
tor is up-to-date  
manager is up-to-date  
middleware is up-to-date  
nginx is up-to-date

Removing status server iptables entry…  
Exiting iptables setup when not on Umbrel OS

Starting installed apps…

Starting app btcpay-server…  
Starting app lightning…  
Starting app bluewallet…  
Starting app bitcoin…  
Starting app thunderhub…  
Starting app electrs…  
Starting app lndg…  
Starting app ride-the-lightning…  
Starting app lnbits…  
Starting app lightning-shell…  
WARNING: The APP\_MEMPOOL\_PORT variable is not set. Defaulting to a blank string.  
WARNING: The APP\_MEMPOOL\_HIDDEN\_SERVICE variable is not set. Defaulting to a blank string.  
electrs\_electrs\_1 is up-to-date  
electrs\_tor\_server\_1 is up-to-date  
electrs\_app\_proxy\_1 is up-to-date  
electrs\_app\_1 is up-to-date  
lndg\_tor\_server\_1 is up-to-date  
lndg\_web\_1 is up-to-date  
lndg\_app\_proxy\_1 is up-to-date  
bluewallet\_app\_proxy\_1 is up-to-date  
bluewallet\_redis\_1 is up-to-date  
bluewallet\_tor\_server\_1 is up-to-date  
bluewallet\_lndhub\_1 is up-to-date  
lnbits\_tor\_server\_1 is up-to-date  
lnbits\_app\_proxy\_1 is up-to-date  
lnbits\_web\_1 is up-to-date  
thunderhub\_tor\_server\_1 is up-to-date  
thunderhub\_app\_proxy\_1 is up-to-date  
bitcoin\_tor\_server\_1 is up-to-date  
thunderhub\_web\_1 is up-to-date  
bitcoin\_app\_proxy\_1 is up-to-date  
bitcoin\_bitcoind\_1 is up-to-date  
lightning\_lnd\_1 is up-to-date  
bitcoin\_server\_1 is up-to-date  
lightning\_tor\_server\_1 is up-to-date  
lightning\_app\_proxy\_1 is up-to-date  
lightning\_app\_1 is up-to-date  
ride-the-lightning\_boltz\_1 is up-to-date  
ride-the-lightning\_app\_proxy\_1 is up-to-date  
ride-the-lightning\_tor\_server\_1 is up-to-date  
ride-the-lightning\_web\_1 is up-to-date  
lightning-shell\_app\_proxy\_1 is up-to-date  
lightning-shell\_web\_1 is up-to-date  
lightning-shell\_tor\_server\_1 is up-to-date  
btcpay-server\_app\_proxy\_1 is up-to-date  
btcpay-server\_tor\_server\_1 is up-to-date  
btcpay-server\_postgres\_1 is up-to-date  
btcpay-server\_nbxplorer\_1 is up-to-date  
btcpay-server\_web\_1 is up-to-date

Umbrel is now accessible at
