# Starting new containers hängs

**URL:** <https://community.umbrel.com/t/starting-new-containers-hangs/9596>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [September 25, 2022, 3:26pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/starting-new-containers-hangs/9596 "2022-09-25T15:26:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![Space-Matrix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Space-Matrix](https://community.umbrel.com/u/Space-Matrix)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2022, 3:26pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/starting-new-containers-hangs/9596/1 "2022-09-25T15:26:36Z")

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![Screenshot from 2022-09-17 10-15-13](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/getumbrel/original/2X/1/186e9063e6a184bc4128bd03e448a21d8fa42895.jpeg)

Hello community  
Since a week after the update I only see this picture.  
But my node is running and everything is normal with Ride The Lightning or Thunderhub in the lightning network. According to the error messages, there is probably a problem with the mempool connection?  
I don’t know if this is important but before the update I tried to set up the Blue Wallet app but that didn’t work  
When I start the node I have the errors:  
WARNING: The APP\_MEMPOOL\_PORT variable is not set. Defaulting to a blank string.  
WARNING: The APP\_MEMPOOL\_HIDDEN\_SERVICE variable is not set. Defaulting to a blank string.

Does anyone know the problem ?!

Regards from Switzerland  
Roland

FULL STARTING PROCESS:

roland@roland-Macmini:~/umbrel$ sudo ./scripts/start  
[sudo] password for roland:  
Skipping status update when not on Umbrel OS

# ====================================== ============= STARTING =============== ============== UMBREL ================

Setting environment variables…

Starting karen…

Starting status monitors…  
Starting memory monitor…

Starting backup monitor…

Starting decoy backup trigger…

Starting Docker services…

auth is up-to-date  
dashboard is up-to-date  
tor is up-to-date  
manager is up-to-date  
middleware is up-to-date  
nginx is up-to-date

Removing status server iptables entry…  
Exiting iptables setup when not on Umbrel OS

Starting installed apps…

Starting app btcpay-server…  
Starting app lightning…  
Starting app bluewallet…  
Starting app bitcoin…  
Starting app thunderhub…  
Starting app electrs…  
Starting app lndg…  
Starting app ride-the-lightning…  
Starting app lnbits…  
Starting app lightning-shell…  
WARNING: The APP\_MEMPOOL\_PORT variable is not set. Defaulting to a blank string.  
WARNING: The APP\_MEMPOOL\_HIDDEN\_SERVICE variable is not set. Defaulting to a blank string.  
electrs\_electrs\_1 is up-to-date  
electrs\_tor\_server\_1 is up-to-date  
electrs\_app\_proxy\_1 is up-to-date  
electrs\_app\_1 is up-to-date  
lndg\_tor\_server\_1 is up-to-date  
lndg\_web\_1 is up-to-date  
lndg\_app\_proxy\_1 is up-to-date  
bluewallet\_app\_proxy\_1 is up-to-date  
bluewallet\_redis\_1 is up-to-date  
bluewallet\_tor\_server\_1 is up-to-date  
bluewallet\_lndhub\_1 is up-to-date  
lnbits\_tor\_server\_1 is up-to-date  
lnbits\_app\_proxy\_1 is up-to-date  
lnbits\_web\_1 is up-to-date  
thunderhub\_tor\_server\_1 is up-to-date  
thunderhub\_app\_proxy\_1 is up-to-date  
bitcoin\_tor\_server\_1 is up-to-date  
thunderhub\_web\_1 is up-to-date  
bitcoin\_app\_proxy\_1 is up-to-date  
bitcoin\_bitcoind\_1 is up-to-date  
lightning\_lnd\_1 is up-to-date  
bitcoin\_server\_1 is up-to-date  
lightning\_tor\_server\_1 is up-to-date  
lightning\_app\_proxy\_1 is up-to-date  
lightning\_app\_1 is up-to-date  
ride-the-lightning\_boltz\_1 is up-to-date  
ride-the-lightning\_app\_proxy\_1 is up-to-date  
ride-the-lightning\_tor\_server\_1 is up-to-date  
ride-the-lightning\_web\_1 is up-to-date  
lightning-shell\_app\_proxy\_1 is up-to-date  
lightning-shell\_web\_1 is up-to-date  
lightning-shell\_tor\_server\_1 is up-to-date  
btcpay-server\_app\_proxy\_1 is up-to-date  
btcpay-server\_tor\_server\_1 is up-to-date  
btcpay-server\_postgres\_1 is up-to-date  
btcpay-server\_nbxplorer\_1 is up-to-date  
btcpay-server\_web\_1 is up-to-date

Umbrel is now accessible at  
[http://roland-Macmini.local](http://roland-Macmini.local)  
http://  
http://

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**Author:** ![golosinskiyjosh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@golosinskiyjosh](https://community.umbrel.com/u/golosinskiyjosh)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 4:35pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/starting-new-containers-hangs/9596/2 "2022-10-10T16:35:00Z")

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Hello! 👋🏼 Are you running Umbrel on a Raspberry Pi or on a linux machine?

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**Author:** ![Space-Matrix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Space-Matrix](https://community.umbrel.com/u/Space-Matrix)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 8:12pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/starting-new-containers-hangs/9596/3 "2022-10-10T20:12:33Z")

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@golosinskiyjosh  
Hi, Thanks for the answer !  
It’s a mac mini running Linux Ubuntu.  
Before the ubdate to version 0.5 everything was going great.  
I continue to use the node mainly with Ride the lightning and it works. Transactions are forwarded, rebalancing works 2 new channels were opened to my node. But I will not open any new channels before the problem is solved.  
As described above, Umbrel no longer starts the dashboard… in the browser.  
Best Regards

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**Author:** ![golosinskiyjosh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@golosinskiyjosh](https://community.umbrel.com/u/golosinskiyjosh)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 8:19pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/starting-new-containers-hangs/9596/4 "2022-10-10T20:19:47Z")

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@Space-Matrix have you tried to access Umbrel using a Tor browser? And I am assuming that you have tried restarting the Mac mini already?

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**Author:** ![Space-Matrix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Space-Matrix](https://community.umbrel.com/u/Space-Matrix)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 8:48pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/starting-new-containers-hangs/9596/5 "2022-10-10T20:48:34Z")

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@golosinskiyjosh I did all the updates and of course rebooted several times.  
I have now connected to a Thor browser but unfortunately the same picture ?

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**Author:** ![golosinskiyjosh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@golosinskiyjosh](https://community.umbrel.com/u/golosinskiyjosh)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 9:39pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/starting-new-containers-hangs/9596/6 "2022-10-10T21:39:55Z")

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SSH into your Umbrel device and try running this piece of code: `sudo systemctl stop umbrel-startup.service && docker system prune --force --all && sudo systemctl start umbrel-startup.service`

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**Author:** ![Space-Matrix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Space-Matrix](https://community.umbrel.com/u/Space-Matrix)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2022, 7:38am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/starting-new-containers-hangs/9596/7 "2022-10-11T07:38:45Z")

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@golosinskiyjosh  
roland@roland-Macmini:~/umbrel$ sudo systemctl stop umbrel-startup.service  
Failed to stop umbrel-startup.service: Unit umbrel-startup.service not loaded.  
roland@roland-Macmini:~/umbrel$ docker system prune --force --all  
Got permission denied while trying to connect to the Docker daemon socket at unix:///var/run/docker.sock: Post “http://%2Fvar%2Frun%2Fdocker.sock/v1.24/containers/prune”: dial unix /var/run/docker.sock: connect: permission denied  
roland@roland-Macmini:~/umbrel$ sudo systemctl start umbrel-startup.service  
Failed to start umbrel-startup.service: Unit umbrel-startup.service not found.  
roland@roland-Macmini:~/umbrel$

**Now RTL and Thunderhub (can’t connect to this node) don’t start anymore?**  
**When I connect RTL in the browser, I get to the wallet unlock page. It says your node is active but I need to enter a wallet password? (wallet password is required)**  
**which password?**

roland@roland-Macmini:~/umbrel$ sudo ./scripts/start  
Skipping status update when not on Umbrel OS

# ====================================== ============= STARTING =============== ============== UMBREL ================

Setting environment variables…

Starting karen…

Starting status monitors…  
Starting memory monitor…

Starting backup monitor…

Starting decoy backup trigger…

Starting Docker services…

Creating network “umbrel\_main\_network” with the default driver  
Creating tor … done  
Creating auth … done  
Creating dashboard … done  
Creating manager … done  
Creating middleware … done  
Creating nginx … done

Removing status server iptables entry…  
Exiting iptables setup when not on Umbrel OS

Starting installed apps…

Starting app lnbits…  
Starting app lightning-shell…  
Starting app ride-the-lightning…  
Starting app lndg…  
Starting app lightning…  
Starting app bitcoin…  
Starting app electrs…  
Starting app thunderhub…  
Starting app bluewallet…  
Starting app btcpay-server…  
WARNING: The APP\_MEMPOOL\_PORT variable is not set. Defaulting to a blank string.  
WARNING: The APP\_MEMPOOL\_HIDDEN\_SERVICE variable is not set. Defaulting to a blank string.  
Creating lndg\_web\_1 …  
Creating lndg\_app\_proxy\_1 …  
Creating lndg\_tor\_server\_1 …  
Creating lightning-shell\_web\_1 …  
Creating lightning-shell\_tor\_server\_1 …  
Creating lightning-shell\_app\_proxy\_1 …  
Creating bitcoin\_app\_proxy\_1 …  
Creating lnbits\_tor\_server\_1 …  
Creating thunderhub\_tor\_server\_1 …  
Creating lnbits\_web\_1 …  
Creating lnbits\_app\_proxy\_1 …  
Creating bitcoin\_tor\_server\_1 …  
Creating thunderhub\_app\_proxy\_1 …  
Creating lightning\_tor\_server\_1 …  
Creating thunderhub\_web\_1 …  
Creating bitcoin\_bitcoind\_1 …  
Creating lightning\_app\_1 …  
Creating ride-the-lightning\_web\_1 …  
Creating lightning\_app\_proxy\_1 …  
Creating bluewallet\_redis\_1 …  
Creating bluewallet\_tor\_server\_1 …  
Creating ride-the-lightning\_app\_proxy\_1 …  
Creating ride-the-lightning\_tor\_server\_1 …  
Creating lightning\_lnd\_1 …  
Creating ride-the-lightning\_boltz\_1 …  
Creating electrs\_tor\_server\_1 …  
Creating electrs\_electrs\_1 …  
Creating electrs\_app\_proxy\_1 …  
Creating ride-the-lightning\_web\_1 … done  
Creating lnbits\_tor\_server\_1 … done  
Creating btcpay-server\_app\_proxy\_1 … done  
Creating btcpay-server\_tor\_server\_1 … done  
Creating electrs\_electrs\_1 … done  
Creating btcpay-server\_nbxplorer\_1 …  
Creating bitcoin\_bitcoind\_1 … done  
Creating btcpay-server\_nbxplorer\_1 … done  
Creating btcpay-server\_web\_1 … done

Umbrel is now accessible at  
[http://roland-Macmini.local](http://roland-Macmini.local)  
http://  
http:/  
Skipping status update when not on Umbrel OS  
roland@roland-Macmini:~/umbrel$ sudo systemctl stop umbrel-startup.service  
Failed to stop umbrel-startup.service: Unit umbrel-startup.service not loaded.  
roland@roland-Macmini:~/umbrel$ docker system prune --force --all  
Got permission denied while trying to connect to the Docker daemon socket at unix:///var/run/docker.sock: Post “http://%2Fvar%2Frun%2Fdocker.sock/v1.24/containers/prune”: dial unix /var/run/docker.sock: connect: permission denied  
roland@roland-Macmini:~/umbrel$ sudo systemctl start umbrel-startup.service  
Failed to start umbrel-startup.service: Unit umbrel-startup.service not found.  
roland@roland-Macmini:~/umbrel$

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**Author:** ![Space-Matrix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Space-Matrix](https://community.umbrel.com/u/Space-Matrix)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/starting-new-containers-hangs/9596/8 "2022-10-13T15:39:03Z")

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I will reinstall the node…
