# Seed words / channel backups for CLN? **URL:** \ **Category:** Support and Troubleshooting\ **Created:** [November 7, 2022, 7:32pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/seed-words-channel-backups-for-cln/10216 "2022-11-07T19:32:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BamaHodl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ab992/32.png) [@BamaHodl](https://community.umbrel.com/u/BamaHodl)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2022, 7:32pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/seed-words-channel-backups-for-cln/10216/1 "2022-11-07T19:32:39Z")
I recently decided to try out CLN. It seems at first glance to function completely independently of the LND node. This raised an important question–are the seed words different, and are the channels backed up as they are with LND? If not, how do I access the seed words so that I would be able to recover on-chain funds in the event of data loss? And also how would I backup/restore the channels? ---
**Author:** ![idontou](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8e8cbc/32.png) [@idontou](https://community.umbrel.com/u/idontou)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2022, 3:04pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/seed-words-channel-backups-for-cln/10216/2 "2022-11-10T15:04:19Z")
Would like to know this too! ---
**Author:** ![psychoet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b5e925/32.png) [@psychoet](https://community.umbrel.com/u/psychoet)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2022, 1:21pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/seed-words-channel-backups-for-cln/10216/3 "2022-11-14T13:21:33Z")
Not sure about the seed words, but there is a way to [backup CLN](https://lightning.readthedocs.io/BACKUP.html). ---
**Author:** ![PMB](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/pmb/32/3829_2.png) [@PMB](https://community.umbrel.com/u/PMB)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 10:45am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/seed-words-channel-backups-for-cln/10216/4 "2023-01-26T10:45:42Z")
I would like to know this as well, it would boost CLN adoption