# Rebalance with rebalance-lnd

**URL:** <https://community.umbrel.com/t/rebalance-with-rebalance-lnd/5837>\
**Category:** General Discussions\
**Created:** [January 20, 2022, 7:45am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/rebalance-with-rebalance-lnd/5837 "2022-01-20T07:45:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![1BTC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/9dc877/32.png) [@1BTC](https://community.umbrel.com/u/1BTC)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 7:45am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/rebalance-with-rebalance-lnd/5837/1 "2022-01-20T07:45:12Z")

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I am trying rebalance using rebalance-lnd tool.  
$ rebalance-lnd -t channel\_id -a 10000  
It always give me error: **could not find any suitable route**  
even if I set amount just 10000, or increase fees up to 1000  
I tried for 30 peers, same error everywhere

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**Author:** ![Hakuna](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/hakuna/32/549_2.png) [@Hakuna](https://community.umbrel.com/u/Hakuna)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 10:27pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/rebalance-with-rebalance-lnd/5837/2 "2022-01-20T22:27:31Z")

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Could be 1 reason only

- since you don’t specify --max-fee nor --fee-factor, r-lnd only considers profitable routes
- -t specifies you want to send “to” the other side, hence draining your profitability with this channel.
- because -t basically robs you of possible traffic out, the only way to make sats in lightning, it only does so when it can pull from another channel, which is more profitable with it’s outgoing fees
- it also takes into consideration the rebalancing fees, so the fees to you to fullfill this circle pay (while the out has no charge to you, the first hop is free, the in has a cost, it’s the PPM of your peer to you)

If the above is not possible, based on pre-computation before even pinging the gossip network, on lost fees Node A + incoming fees from Node B - possible outgoing fees from Node B \< 0, no suitable route can be found and hence it’s giving this error

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**Author:** ![1BTC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/9dc877/32.png) [@1BTC](https://community.umbrel.com/u/1BTC)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 12:54am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/rebalance-with-rebalance-lnd/5837/3 "2022-01-21T00:54:26Z")

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i tried with --fee-factor 10!  
same problem

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**Author:** ![Hakuna](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/hakuna/32/549_2.png) [@Hakuna](https://community.umbrel.com/u/Hakuna)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 7:03am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/rebalance-with-rebalance-lnd/5837/4 "2022-01-21T07:03:14Z")

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Try with  
`-t chan-ID -a 100000 --fee-ppm-limit 150 --reckless`

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**Author:** ![1BTC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/9dc877/32.png) [@1BTC](https://community.umbrel.com/u/1BTC)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2022, 8:55pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/rebalance-with-rebalance-lnd/5837/5 "2022-01-23T20:55:08Z")

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thank you
