# Pi 5 NVME hat-- not possible to install Umbrel on it?

**URL:** <https://community.umbrel.com/t/pi-5-nvme-hat-not-possible-to-install-umbrel-on-it/16023>\
**Category:** General Discussions\
**Created:** [April 2, 2024, 11:57am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/pi-5-nvme-hat-not-possible-to-install-umbrel-on-it/16023 "2024-04-02T11:57:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![obioban](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/c0e974/32.png) [@obioban](https://community.umbrel.com/u/obioban)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 11:57am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/pi-5-nvme-hat-not-possible-to-install-umbrel-on-it/16023/1 "2024-04-02T11:57:04Z")

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Just getting into Umbrel for the first time. I have a Pi 5 with a NVME hat that I had previously been using for all the Arr’s/Plex, but wanted to try out the Umbrel route.

Seems like I can only install Umbrel on an external USB drive, not on the NVME? Or, am I missing something?

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**Author:** ![MadMacks](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/madmacks/32/5182_2.png) [@MadMacks](https://community.umbrel.com/u/MadMacks)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 1:55pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/pi-5-nvme-hat-not-possible-to-install-umbrel-on-it/16023/2 "2024-04-02T13:55:06Z")

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Correct. They say they will support NVMe in 1.1 but don’t clarify if that means you can install/boot on NVMe or just use it as a storage device.

So today (1.0.4), no NVMe drive attached to a RPi 5 PCIe hat, but yes to NVMe SSD if it’s installed in a USB3 enclosure that the UmbrelOS kernel supports, but it’s a crapshoot to find one that does work.

Future (1.1), maybe support NVMe PCIe hat SSD, but no clarity on UmbrelOS being able to boot from NVMe/PCIe hat.

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**Author:** ![obioban](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/c0e974/32.png) [@obioban](https://community.umbrel.com/u/obioban)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 1:57pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/pi-5-nvme-hat-not-possible-to-install-umbrel-on-it/16023/3 "2024-04-02T13:57:25Z")

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Hmm.

Any sort of ETA on 1.1? Seems like I should probably wait, before spending time getting it dialed in without NVME support.

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**Author:** ![guavabit3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5e925/32.png) [@guavabit3](https://community.umbrel.com/u/guavabit3)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2024, 3:55am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/pi-5-nvme-hat-not-possible-to-install-umbrel-on-it/16023/4 "2024-05-16T03:55:31Z")

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I found a workaround - this should work regardless of the Umbrel OS version since the Pi kernel should be able to mount and boot with an NVME drive if configured correctly on the EEPROM. I used Pi Imager on Raspberry Pi OS 64-bit Desktop, and just downloaded the Pi 5 Umbrel OS image, and set it up on the NVME drive - if you have your drive mounted and it can be detected on Pi OS, you should just be able to select it as the target, and just use Umbrel OS as a custom OS image, and voila, fast Umbrel on a Pi (again). And then just remove whatever SD card you have in the Pi, and according to boot priority set in raspi-config on Pi OS (I chose SD → NVME → USB), if you pull out the SD card, it should just boot into Umbrel OS. That’s basically it - hope this helps!

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**Author:** ![lukechilds](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/lukechilds/32/4381_2.png) [@lukechilds](https://community.umbrel.com/u/lukechilds)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 3:12pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/pi-5-nvme-hat-not-possible-to-install-umbrel-on-it/16023/5 "2024-06-07T15:12:32Z")

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Hey guys this is now officially supported, there’s a public beta if you want to try: [Release umbrelOS 1.2 Beta 1 · getumbrel/umbrel · GitHub](https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel/releases/tag/1.2.0-beta.1)
