# Loop Out with Ride the Lightning

**URL:** <https://community.umbrel.com/t/loop-out-with-ride-the-lightning/2229>\
**Category:** Bitcoin and Lightning\
**Created:** [July 29, 2021, 4:27am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/loop-out-with-ride-the-lightning/2229 "2021-07-29T04:27:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![neil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/neil/32/93_2.png) [@neil](https://community.umbrel.com/u/neil)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2021, 4:27am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/loop-out-with-ride-the-lightning/2229/1 "2021-07-29T04:27:29Z")

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Newb question I’ve opened several channels and want to balance them using “loop out”. I’ve tried this multiple times and it always fails in the end. Any advice please gratefully received.

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**Author:** ![jlahtela](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/jlahtela/32/842_2.png) [@jlahtela](https://community.umbrel.com/u/jlahtela)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 3:13pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/loop-out-with-ride-the-lightning/2229/2 "2021-08-02T15:13:14Z")

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That channel may not have route to loop server therefore it fails as it cannot send funds.

Here is video of more detailed investigation and explanation:

[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/getumbrel/original/1X/5a10822959d75c42ebe92f6c2e7f099977d44a2e.jpeg "How to Loop Out to get Lightning Inbound Liquidity on RTL and Command Line") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rK4gYaEybE)

What you could try is “Circular Rebalance” if you have some inbound capacity in some channel.  
This can be found from peers/channels under (channel) actions in RTL.

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**Author:** ![Full\_node](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/full_node/32/80_2.png) [@Full\_node](https://community.umbrel.com/u/Full_node)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2021, 8:06pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/loop-out-with-ride-the-lightning/2229/3 "2021-08-03T20:06:05Z")

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Loop fails more often than not. It may be a routing issue or it may be an imbalanced channel on the route. Just keep trying it and eventually it works. Maybe 1 in 12 tries goes through for me.

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**Author:** ![neil](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/neil/32/93_2.png) [@neil](https://community.umbrel.com/u/neil)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2021, 7:55am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/loop-out-with-ride-the-lightning/2229/4 "2021-08-07T07:55:00Z")

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Thanks for your helpful responses 😀