# Lightning not working in Umbrel **URL:** \ **Category:** Bitcoin and Lightning\ **Created:** [October 12, 2023, 4:55pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/lightning-not-working-in-umbrel/13931 "2023-10-12T16:55:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Emptiness343](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/77aa72/32.png) [@Emptiness343](https://community.umbrel.com/u/Emptiness343)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2023, 4:55pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/lightning-not-working-in-umbrel/13931/1 "2023-10-12T16:55:15Z")
Hope all is well. I have an issue with lightning. Lightning node is stuck for some days now with this: ![Node](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/getumbrel/original/2X/2/296b130396763e9ac7d62989c2fd02c517739261.png) For further info, RTL shows error 500: ![RTL](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/getumbrel/original/2X/5/58bc4fb190b1b504cde15d4edcb492e330c9c26c.png) THunderhub says: can’t connect to this Node. ![Thunderhub](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/getumbrel/original/2X/9/9e17d27d796dca603bda0edb75dd11bc447971aa.png) I shutdown my umbrel, removed my SD card and reinstated it again and the same issue. 15 minutes have passed now since reboot. Umbrel log here: [====================== Umbrel debug info ======================Umbrel ve - Pastebin.com](https://pastebin.com/ApQpFj4T) Can you please help at least to not lose my funds, don’t care if I need to reset my node but at least to recover my funds. Thanks a lot. Best regards, ---
**Author:** ![Orville](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/orville/32/4066_2.png) [@Orville](https://community.umbrel.com/u/Orville)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2023, 4:52am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/lightning-not-working-in-umbrel/13931/2 "2023-10-13T04:52:53Z")
Thunderhub will only work if lnd is up and running, and it looks like lnd is still waiting for rpc services. My Umbrel node takes around one hour to fully start, and that is with fewer apps installed. I recognise the long wait for rpc services to function. Maybe wait a little longer, and at least a couple of hours, for rpc services and apps to start up - or if possible uninstall some of the apps so more RAM is available for the the essentials: Bitcoin node, Lightning Node and Thunderhub (or RTL). ---
**Author:** ![Emptiness343](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/77aa72/32.png) [@Emptiness343](https://community.umbrel.com/u/Emptiness343)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2023, 2:08am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/lightning-not-working-in-umbrel/13931/3 "2023-10-27T02:08:06Z")
Hello Orville, I resynced all BTC blockchain. It took me two weeks. Sorry for the delay. After fully syncing, still the problem persist. I also followed your advice. Minimum apps install. Quite a good space for RAM. Lightning still gets stuck, I left it open the whole night and remains stuck. Any other thoughts? Thank you in advance. ---
**Author:** ![smolgrrr](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/smolgrrr/32/2825_2.png) [@smolgrrr](https://community.umbrel.com/u/smolgrrr)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2023, 3:39am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/lightning-not-working-in-umbrel/13931/4 "2023-10-28T03:39:47Z")
Hey mate, first of all, I assume you have backed up your seed-phrase in case we need to recover the funds in a different wallet? Can you please try the following and share the output: > [@Official Umbrel Troubleshooting Guide and FAQ](https://community.umbrel.com/t/official-umbrel-troubleshooting-guide-and-faq/9873/1): > > SSH (Secure Shell) is a way to access and control a device, such as your Umbrel server running on a Umbrel Home or Raspberry Pi, via the command line. To access Umbrel via SSH, follow these steps: > > 1. Open a terminal window on your computer. On macOS, you can open the Terminal app that’s installed by default on every Mac. On Windows, you can open Command Prompt or the PowerShell app. > 2. Type in the following command\* and press the `Enter` key:`ssh -t umbrel@umbrel.local`\*In the command given above, you can replace `umbrel.local` with the local IP of your Umbrel if you prefer. If you are using PowerShell on Windows 10, you may need to run `ssh umbrel@umbrel` instead of the command given above. > 3. You will then be prompted to enter your password. This is the same password you use to access your Umbrel through a browser. The default password before you have created an account on your Umbrel is `moneyprintergobrrr` on Raspberry Pi, and `umbrel` on Umbrel Home. You will not be able to see your password as you type it into the terminal. Once you have typed in your password, press the `Enter` key. > > This will established an SSH connection to your Umbrel server. You can now begin using the command line interface to perform various actions and troubleshoot issues that require SSH. then run > ~/umbrel/scripts/app restart bitcoin && ~/umbrel/scripts/app restart lightning Let me know how that goes ---
**Author:** ![butterknuckles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@butterknuckles](https://community.umbrel.com/u/butterknuckles)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 3:17pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/lightning-not-working-in-umbrel/13931/5 "2023-10-30T15:17:01Z")
+1. This solution worked for me 👍🏽 Now I’m trying to recover my lightning channels, but this is how I was able to get the Lightning Node app to load. One step at a time. ---
**Author:** ![Emptiness343](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/77aa72/32.png) [@Emptiness343](https://community.umbrel.com/u/Emptiness343)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2023, 5:54am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/lightning-not-working-in-umbrel/13931/6 "2023-11-04T05:54:24Z")
Hello, at the end I had to recover my BTC wallet from the lightning app. It took around one day and to then to recover the funds from the lightning channels, it closed them automatically, losing some ksats in the process. Something to improve at Umbrel. It felt like a DoS almost not being able to use Lightning… Best regards, ---
**Author:** ![butterknuckles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df788c/32.png) [@butterknuckles](https://community.umbrel.com/u/butterknuckles)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2023, 3:27pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/lightning-not-working-in-umbrel/13931/7 "2023-11-06T15:27:57Z")
the problem I’m facing now is that my recovery files don’t appear via the automated recovery process. I’ve been working with Umbrel via DM’s to try and recovery, but it’s not looking good ☹