# Lightning Balance Discrepancy **URL:** \ **Category:** Bitcoin and Lightning\ **Created:** [August 2, 2021, 4:18pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/lightning-balance-discrepancy/2298 "2021-08-02T16:18:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Hodlanta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9adbd/32.png) [@Hodlanta](https://community.umbrel.com/u/Hodlanta)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 4:18pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/lightning-balance-discrepancy/2298/1 "2021-08-02T16:18:27Z")
Hi, My Umbrel wallet shows a Lightning balance that is slightly higher (~2k sats) than what is showing on Thunderhub or RTL. Why would these amounts be different? Any tips on how to reconcile? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![ToronNRoll](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4af34b/32.png) [@ToronNRoll](https://community.umbrel.com/u/ToronNRoll)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 8:27am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/lightning-balance-discrepancy/2298/2 "2021-08-04T08:27:36Z")
Howdy! I am having the same issue. Has this point been moved along at all? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![ToronNRoll](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4af34b/32.png) [@ToronNRoll](https://community.umbrel.com/u/ToronNRoll)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2021, 8:53am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/lightning-balance-discrepancy/2298/3 "2021-08-04T08:53:59Z")
Here we go! after a bit of investigation: > [@Umbrel, RTL, Thunderhub showing different amount of satoshis available](http://community.umbrel.com/t/umbrel-rtl-thunderhub-showing-different-amount-of-satoshis-available/778/12): > > Me too😏 To summarize my learnings: - Umbrel dashboard is displaying balance without Commitment Fees ( reserved for force closing transaction). - ThunderHub & RTL subtract the Commitment Fees from the balance. - The commitment fees continually evolve along with the on-chain fees (thus impacting ThunderHub / TRL Lightning Balance) Hope that helps!