After just a few weeks I think I’ve come to the conclusion that running a Lightning Node at this point in time cannot be done profitably. If I’m wrong, please reply. I have read all of the articles and watched all of the videos I can find. Some ones I’ve found most useful are: Four Tips for Runni…

Thanks for list of useful links and for sharing your experience ! I am not sure there is a reliable way to operate a node at an operating profit (not including cost of capital you are committing). There may be a few big nodes that have achieved that but even for those I think there would be easier …

Thanks @swizly12 . I 100% agree. I too am in it to learn and to help LN grow. To that end I have considered setting all my fees to zero – I did actually try that for a few days but found all liquidity got pulled to one side and then all activity stopped. So I believe active rebalancing is necessary f…

I think that your first mistake was to create channels with very low liquidity. The ideal would be 10M sats or at least 6M. With only 10M you can open several channels. Open a 10M one, loop it, and with the one you receive onchain, open another, and another…

[image] satoshinaka069: Abri 15 canais balanceados usando Liquidity Swaps ou rebalanceando unilateralmente Why use “Liquidity Swaps” when you can use the existing “Lightning Terminal” App on your Umbrel node?

Thank you @Redin . You’re probably correct about channel size. About half of my channels are 5M and I have one 10M. The others are smaller. The reason I’ve been hesitant to open larger ones is because I have had difficulty rebalancing large channels. Using Thunderhub and RTL I often have to run sever…

When I say “Lightning Swaps” I’m referring to https://lightningnetwork.plus/swaps . I do this to open channels with other peers who contribute an equal amount of liquidity. That way I don’t have to put up 100% of the liquidity. Does Lightning Terminal also have this feature? Is that what the “Pool” f…

I am also new to this LN adventure but have learned from the best in the area in the group where I get information. I will not use rebalancing now. Right now I’ll open a 10M channel and then use the Loop. This way the liquidity is all on the other side of the channel and I get the return of what I s…

Thanks @Redin . That’s a good point. I didn’t mention that in my original post but I have also done loop outs so I can reuse the funds to open new channels. This doesn’t solve my lack of profitability though. As you said, you need to account for the on-chain fees. But also, most of my channels tend …

I was thinking maybe there is some way to rebalance only when a payment route is required or maybe make the source pay for rebalance. So for example if I want to pay 100K sats and the routes require rebalance it may be an option to pay 0.1-1% 100-1K sats for fees including rebalance. WDYT about it …

How to Operate a Profitable Lightning Node? (or at least not go broke)

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diogosilva March 31, 2025, 12:44pm 13

of course it has potential, on my opinion do not do as much of that…
hopefully helpful !

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