# Automatic Encrypted Backup

**URL:** <https://community.umbrel.com/t/automatic-encrypted-backup/3592>\
**Category:** Support and Troubleshooting\
**Created:** [September 23, 2021, 3:13pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/automatic-encrypted-backup/3592 "2021-09-23T15:13:49Z")\
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Is your LN node still accessible through RTL or Thunderhub or Umbrel dashboard?  
Try to close normally the channels and wait to recover funds in onchain (you will see them in Zap onchain). Normally takes 144 blocks (24h). Keep that Zap wallet as it is as a backup wallet.  
Then start a new node instance, clean, from zero.  
Send the funds from Zap to your new node and start fresh.

> [@How to restore your node wallet (updated)](http://community.umbrel.com/t/how-to-restore-your-node-wallet/3602):
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> NOTICE: this guide was made for Umbrel v 0.4.x. It is not valid anymore for v 0.5.x. [Please follow these instructiions for v 0.5.0x](https://twitter.com/umbrel/status/1562099972547690501) Here is a separate chapter about managing your Umbrel node, about methods/ways to restore/recover your Umbrel LND wallet in case of SHTF. There are many users that do crazy stuff with their Umbrel nodes and sometimes, there’s no other way to fix it than restore it into another wallet app and start over with a new one or same LND wallet but in a new instance. REME…

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