# Apps constantly on "starting" mode via Tor **URL:** \ **Category:** Support and Troubleshooting\ **Created:** [December 22, 2022, 2:06am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/apps-constantly-on-starting-mode-via-tor/10755 "2022-12-22T02:06:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![n080dy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/n080dy/32/2207_2.png) [@n080dy](https://community.umbrel.com/u/n080dy)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 2:06am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/apps-constantly-on-starting-mode-via-tor/10755/1 "2022-12-22T02:06:18Z")
Hey there, Lately, I noticed that some of the apps (most of the time BTC Pay server and Tailscale) are constantly in “starting” mode ![Screenshot 2022-12-21 at 7.12.58 pm](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/getumbrel/original/2X/a/acc31d75386b4fa432332d36a76e9c594be59bdf.png) Either when the apps stop “starting” and look ready to go… I get an “Onionsite not found” error ![Screenshot 2022-12-21 at 9.01.34 pm](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/getumbrel/original/2X/6/6780c68cf01be173d7be850f2df1dd8b1a4366c7.png) Also tried to restart the node without any luck Any suggestion on how to fix this? PS: connecting outside the local network ---
**Author:** ![n080dy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/n080dy/32/2207_2.png) [@n080dy](https://community.umbrel.com/u/n080dy)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2022, 6:04pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/apps-constantly-on-starting-mode-via-tor/10755/2 "2022-12-28T18:04:11Z")
From the log… ` tailscale_tor_server_1 Restarting (1) 57 seconds ago` ` tailscale_web_1 Up 7 days` and is appearing like is restarting each time a run a log from the /umbrel/settings page Indeed for ` btcpay-server_nbxplorer_1 Up 7 days` but the icon in the dashboard still shows that is “starting” 🤷 Specific log for Tailscale: ``` Attaching to tailscale_tor_server_1, tailscale_web_1 web_1 | 2022/12/28 17:53:12 monitor: RTM_DELROUTE: src=, dst=fe80::/64, gw=, outif=22145, table=254 web_1 | 2022/12/28 17:53:12 monitor: RTM_DELROUTE: src=, dst=ff00::/8, gw=, outif=22145, table=255 web_1 | 2022/12/28 17:54:13 monitor: RTM_DELROUTE: src=, dst=fe80::/64, gw=, outif=22147, table=254 web_1 | 2022/12/28 17:54:13 monitor: RTM_DELROUTE: src=, dst=ff00::/8, gw=, outif=22147, table=255 web_1 | 2022/12/28 17:55:14 monitor: RTM_DELROUTE: src=, dst=fe80::/64, gw=, outif=22149, table=254 web_1 | 2022/12/28 17:55:14 monitor: RTM_DELROUTE: src=, dst=ff00::/8, gw=, outif=22149, table=255 web_1 | 2022/12/28 17:56:16 monitor: RTM_DELROUTE: src=, dst=fe80::/64, gw=, outif=22151, table=254 web_1 | 2022/12/28 17:56:16 monitor: RTM_DELROUTE: src=, dst=ff00::/8, gw=, outif=22151, table=255 web_1 | 2022/12/28 17:57:18 monitor: RTM_DELROUTE: src=, dst=fe80::/64, gw=, outif=22153, table=254 web_1 | 2022/12/28 17:57:18 monitor: RTM_DELROUTE: src=, dst=ff00::/8, gw=, outif=22153, table=255 ``` but not sure what it means… Any other information I can share to be able to activate/access/run Tailscale again via Tor? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![n080dy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/n080dy/32/2207_2.png) [@n080dy](https://community.umbrel.com/u/n080dy)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2023, 12:28am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/apps-constantly-on-starting-mode-via-tor/10755/3 "2023-01-13T00:28:08Z")
Hey, as you are reading this, please try to replicate this issue by following the steps below: 1. Copy your `umbrel-node-address.onion` from here umbrel.local//settings/#account 2. Open a [New Private window with Tor](https://support.brave.com/hc/en-us/articles/360018121491-What-is-a-Private-Window-with-Tor-Connectivity-#) using [Brave](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiIo8C_osP8AhWPjKQKHWN7CmEQFnoECAoQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fbrave.com%2F&usg=AOvVaw2CfcgN6wLi3270uJRtAJ62) 3. Paste your `umbrel-node-address.onion` and login to your umbrel.node 4. IF you don’t have already, install and [setup Tailscale](https://tailscale.com/kb/1017/install/) 5. Respond to this thread and let me know if you are experiencing the same issue Thanks in advance ---
**Author:** ![n080dy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/n080dy/32/2207_2.png) [@n080dy](https://community.umbrel.com/u/n080dy)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2023, 11:53pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/apps-constantly-on-starting-mode-via-tor/10755/4 "2023-01-18T23:53:31Z")
The same issue persists trying from a New Private window with Tor using Brave browser ![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/getumbrel/original/2X/f/fc0d56716bacc4934f5eff93c17182bb95809456.png) ---
**Author:** ![BankersBadDream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e4f/32.png) [@BankersBadDream](https://community.umbrel.com/u/BankersBadDream)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2023, 6:29pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/apps-constantly-on-starting-mode-via-tor/10755/5 "2023-02-08T18:29:11Z")
Did you manage to figure this out? I am having the same issue ---
**Author:** ![n080dy](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/n080dy/32/2207_2.png) [@n080dy](https://community.umbrel.com/u/n080dy)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2023, 7:08pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/apps-constantly-on-starting-mode-via-tor/10755/6 "2023-02-19T19:08:40Z")
Unfortunately not, I think is just a Tor thing with TailScale. ATM is the only app that still endlessly in `Starting...` mode From the local network everything it’s working fine ---
**Author:** ![usernameisJim](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/usernameisjim/32/3309_2.png) [@usernameisJim](https://community.umbrel.com/u/usernameisJim)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2023, 3:28am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/apps-constantly-on-starting-mode-via-tor/10755/7 "2023-08-04T03:28:40Z")
Uninstalling and reinstalling Tailscale usually fixes this, You can also share a debug log we can see what’s going on via System \> Troubleshoot \> Start, Reflashing a MicroSD card or rebooting any Linux install also is the biggest fix for this