# All apps stopped working

**URL:** https://community.umbrel.com/t/all-apps-stopped-working/21178
**Category:** Support and Troubleshooting
**Created:** [January 31, 2025, 3:32pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/all-apps-stopped-working/21178 "2025-01-31T15:32:24Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![mkh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@mkh](https://community.umbrel.com/u/mkh)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2025, 6:50pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/all-apps-stopped-working/21178/21 "2025-01-31T18:50:03Z")

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Use the thread I linked to previously and this one: [HOW-TO Using 2 SDDs in umbrellos (in a simple and practical way)](https://community.umbrel.com/t/how-to-using-2-sdds-in-umbrellos-in-a-simple-and-practical-way/20222)

Credit goes to @jofraprez on that one.

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### Author: ![jofraprez](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/jofraprez/32/6571_2.png) [@jofraprez](https://community.umbrel.com/u/jofraprez)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2025, 6:51pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/all-apps-stopped-working/21178/22 "2025-01-31T18:51:30Z")

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wow… i see you’ve been active…  
@mkh, take it easy… just because one problem looks like another doesn’t mean it’s the same problem… and you’re overlooking some details…  
Let me explain before you escalate the problem:

If you look at the last image, it shows that the blockchain is 83% downloaded.

It is impossible for 83% of the blockchain to fit on the SD card.

So the SSD is there, detected.

So if you reinstalled everything a couple of hours ago at most, I don’t think you downloaded 83% in 2 hours?

That “low space” error in the log is probably because there are remnants of the previous installation with problems of bitcoin-core app.

Question: Are you only using bitcoin-core app on the RPI?

I ask because at this point, personally, I would format ssd, reflash sd with umbrel and start from scratch with a fresh installation and be sure not to have any problems

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### Author: ![mkh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@mkh](https://community.umbrel.com/u/mkh)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2025, 6:59pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/all-apps-stopped-working/21178/23 "2025-01-31T18:59:58Z")

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It would be a good idea to post screenshots of the result of the `lsblk` command and the `cat /etc/fstab` command. That will let us see how it’s configured to make sure it’s right.

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### Author: ![JuniorWhitefish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e0b2c6/32.png) [@JuniorWhitefish](https://community.umbrel.com/u/JuniorWhitefish)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2025, 7:02pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/all-apps-stopped-working/21178/24 "2025-01-31T19:02:13Z")

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It’s definitely not 83% synced. The app itself shows less than 1% still. But the settings still show only 51gb of storage. I also downloaded plex and tailscale, but haven’t used them yet. You’re probably right about starting over. Steep learning curve for an old hippie. 😂

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### Author: ![mkh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@mkh](https://community.umbrel.com/u/mkh)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2025, 7:03pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/all-apps-stopped-working/21178/25 "2025-01-31T19:03:08Z")

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83% must be an error/bug, because mine is currently over 86% synced and also shows only 83% on that screen.

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### Author: ![JuniorWhitefish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e0b2c6/32.png) [@JuniorWhitefish](https://community.umbrel.com/u/JuniorWhitefish)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2025, 7:03pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/all-apps-stopped-working/21178/26 "2025-01-31T19:03:25Z")

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Well, now I’m getting conflicting advice.

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### Author: ![mkh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@mkh](https://community.umbrel.com/u/mkh)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2025, 7:04pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/all-apps-stopped-working/21178/27 "2025-01-31T19:04:13Z")

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Run those commands and post screenshots. It’s getting info only and not changing anything.

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### Author: ![JuniorWhitefish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e0b2c6/32.png) [@JuniorWhitefish](https://community.umbrel.com/u/JuniorWhitefish)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2025, 7:06pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/all-apps-stopped-working/21178/28 "2025-01-31T19:06:30Z")

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Here’s the first.

 ![IMG_2441](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/getumbrel/original/2X/c/c16383e8c23ada3ce2770abe9fa5a2b76742d9e9.png)

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### Author: ![mkh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@mkh](https://community.umbrel.com/u/mkh)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2025, 7:07pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/all-apps-stopped-working/21178/29 "2025-01-31T19:07:20Z")

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It doesn’t look like the RPI is seeing the SSD at all.

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### Author: ![JuniorWhitefish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e0b2c6/32.png) [@JuniorWhitefish](https://community.umbrel.com/u/JuniorWhitefish)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2025, 7:08pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/all-apps-stopped-working/21178/30 "2025-01-31T19:08:59Z")

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![IMG_2442](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/uploads/getumbrel/original/2X/e/e611cbefd4bd62f5617e367080aedaba23824873.png)

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### Author: ![mkh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@mkh](https://community.umbrel.com/u/mkh)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2025, 7:12pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/all-apps-stopped-working/21178/31 "2025-01-31T19:12:01Z")

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Your SSD is not working. Can’t really help you with that one. It’s a hardware issue. Either defective, not compatible, or not setup correctly.

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### Author: ![mkh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@mkh](https://community.umbrel.com/u/mkh)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2025, 7:13pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/all-apps-stopped-working/21178/32 "2025-01-31T19:13:04Z")

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Curious, why a RPI 5? A mini PC would be much better performance. Much better value overall.

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### Author: ![JuniorWhitefish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e0b2c6/32.png) [@JuniorWhitefish](https://community.umbrel.com/u/JuniorWhitefish)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2025, 7:13pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/all-apps-stopped-working/21178/33 "2025-01-31T19:13:23Z")

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Bummer. Ok, thanks for your help.

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### Author: ![mkh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@mkh](https://community.umbrel.com/u/mkh)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2025, 7:14pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/all-apps-stopped-working/21178/34 "2025-01-31T19:14:01Z")

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Yeah, sorry. Good luck.

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### Author: ![JuniorWhitefish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e0b2c6/32.png) [@JuniorWhitefish](https://community.umbrel.com/u/JuniorWhitefish)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2025, 7:14pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/all-apps-stopped-working/21178/35 "2025-01-31T19:14:58Z")

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Good question. I just read about someone doing it, and it seemed like a cool project. I have very little computer build/hack experience.

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### Author: ![mkh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@mkh](https://community.umbrel.com/u/mkh)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2025, 7:16pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/all-apps-stopped-working/21178/36 "2025-01-31T19:16:42Z")

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If the RPi5 is returnable (like if you got it off Amazon or something) you may want to consider that and getting a mini PC instead. Like a Beelink or something along those lines. Might even be less money for better performance.

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### Author: ![JuniorWhitefish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e0b2c6/32.png) [@JuniorWhitefish](https://community.umbrel.com/u/JuniorWhitefish)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2025, 7:18pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/all-apps-stopped-working/21178/37 "2025-01-31T19:18:13Z")

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Ok, I appreciate the advice. I suppose I can resell it.

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### Author: ![mkh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@mkh](https://community.umbrel.com/u/mkh)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2025, 7:18pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/all-apps-stopped-working/21178/38 "2025-01-31T19:18:25Z")

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Pis are great if you want to build something unique that a Mini PC or other computer can’t do. For example, I used a Pi Zero to build a SeedSigner.

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### Author: ![JuniorWhitefish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e0b2c6/32.png) [@JuniorWhitefish](https://community.umbrel.com/u/JuniorWhitefish)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2025, 7:19pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/all-apps-stopped-working/21178/39 "2025-01-31T19:19:57Z")

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Cool. My only real plan was to run a BTC node and maybe mess around with some of the other file storage and media apps.

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### Author: ![mkh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@mkh](https://community.umbrel.com/u/mkh)
#### Post date: [January 31, 2025, 7:20pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/all-apps-stopped-working/21178/40 "2025-01-31T19:20:31Z")

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You can keep it and use to for something else. For example, I initially thought I’d run Home Assistant off the Umbrel, but learned because it runs in a docker that you can’t install add-ons on Home Assistant. So I moved my Homebridge from my Pi to Umbrel and turned the Pi into a Home Assistant with add-ons.

Or keep it and make it work. It can still work for a Bitcoin Node with Umbrel once you get the SSD working.

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