# 24 words seed was not given

**URL:** <https://community.umbrel.com/t/24-words-seed-was-not-given/10672>\
**Category:** Support and Troubleshooting\
**Created:** [December 13, 2022, 8:17pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/24-words-seed-was-not-given/10672 "2022-12-13T20:17:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![mizuta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eada6e/32.png) [@mizuta](https://community.umbrel.com/u/mizuta)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2022, 8:17pm UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/24-words-seed-was-not-given/10672/1 "2022-12-13T20:17:05Z")

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Hi, I just installed umbrel, I installed the Bitcoin Core 24.0.0 from the app store, I’m running Umbrel Version 0.5.3 with a 4Tb HDD connected to a raspberry 4 8 Gb ram, connected via ethernet to a switch and the switch is connected to my router. When I run the installation the bitcoin core didn’t give me the 24 words, I don’t have any settings button or something similar to see the 24 words seed. Is this because it needs first to synchronize the whole blockchain? or I should try to unistall and install again bitcoin core? I don’t have any balance on it since there is not send or receive buttons.

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**Author:** ![usernameisJim](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.umbrel.com/usernameisjim/32/3309_2.png) [@usernameisJim](https://community.umbrel.com/u/usernameisJim)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 3:51am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/24-words-seed-was-not-given/10672/2 "2022-12-14T03:51:13Z")

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Hey @mizuta!

In the newer version of Umbrel the Lightning Node app now provides your 24-word seed phrase when you set it up, instead of the Bitcoin Node app. It will load once the Bitcoin app is 100% synchronized.

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**Author:** ![mizuta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eada6e/32.png) [@mizuta](https://community.umbrel.com/u/mizuta)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 8:50am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/24-words-seed-was-not-given/10672/3 "2022-12-14T08:50:53Z")

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Thank you for your answer, just to be clear, the bitcoin core now doesn’t let you do any transactions or create a wallet? that means in order of using the bitcoin network I need to install the lightning node app? I’m asking because I was planning just to install bitcoin core.

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**Author:** ![hearliam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@hearliam](https://community.umbrel.com/u/hearliam)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2022, 4:50am UTC](https://community.umbrel.com/t/24-words-seed-was-not-given/10672/4 "2022-12-16T04:50:17Z")

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Bitcoin node isnt like a crypto wallet you dont have a 24 word seed phrase